Monday, January 14, 2008

Okay-the polls are in.....

Well majority-okay all...LOLOLOL on my group say to pull him out......hmmmmm.....

They say its just adding to his frustrations and after we have fully established homeschooling maybe we could try it again. They say it might be adding to his anxiety as its making him face the feelings he had and memories he had at school-which I agree I hadnt thought abt and would make total sense....and would not be a good thing. I def dont want him remembering things from that place they call a school.....

okay any thoughts?







5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey, T!

Just thinking in words... lol

Doesn't Dr. Jim say that socialization is learned at home from parents? It's been awhile since I read his book, but you have it, don't you? Maybe something to bring up on that group? Just a thought.

Maybe he doesn't like any of those kids, either. If he's been in the same group for 2 years (let's just say) and the kids are the same (possibly even from his old school!) and he's been picked on or excluded, maybe if there was a different group of kids he got to know in a different therapy he might act differently.

Are there any kids in the neighborhood that he likes or would be interested in spending any time with? Could you not use something like that for "socialization therapy" instead, and then, like your group says, after homeschooling is more established, try again.

Have you looked into any groups of kids that are "into" bugs/bees? Maybe that would be an alternative? I mean, really, what are they teaching him in a "socialization" class? If it's just to "mingle" (I'm really not sure) then couldn't that be done with something HE enjoys?

Of course, it all boils down to you making the best decision for him. :)

MommyTof3 said...

Thanks C {{HUGS}}
Yes...you are right on all accounts-its the same kiddoes he had problems with at his home school-and they pick him up at his home school( lives by)and he tends to have problems on the bus sometimes too.....
He is doing sooo well at home-occasional outburst of anger or frustration but the hitting is down considerably, no cussing etc. Ist on teh outside taht we have issues and I dont think Dr. Jim addresses that issue as detailed as I'd like.
Ive been mirroring-stating instead of leading etc-like he says and Stingers been responding alot better to me and is telling me things and communicating his feelings.
But take him out those front doors and he totally shuts down and you would never know the progress he has really made at home etc-kwim?
Im going to ask ard and see what I can find abt other groups etc.....no boys in teh neighboorhood-girls, but no boys his age..maybee ill start him up with swimming agn-he really liked that and another session starts in Feb?....
Thanks BB

Anonymous said...

Hey girl,

Why don't you ask Dr. Jim on the group what he thinks? Might be that in another book he addresses that very thing, and we just haven't read it. You could just copy and paste what you wrote in your earlier post and get his input (and those of some of the group) and see if he has addressed it.

If he had trouble with those kids in school, yea, it seems to me that it would continue, and why should he try to be social with kids that have been picking on him since he went to school with them? He can only look forward to them either picking on him or shunning him. Why can't the powers that be see that? duh. Why don't you tell the people that want him going there that, and ask for a different class if need be? If you still wanted to go that route, of course.

That's wonderful news that Stinger is opening up to you! Awesome!

PeeK said...

I home school my nineteen year old son with Asperger's, Autism and Tourette's (and why, you ask, is he still home-schooling? well because by the time he flunked tenth grade, the school had royally mangled his education and neglected to actually, you know, TEACH anything). His absolutely wonderful psychiatrist had us teach social skills by first having him work one on one with two adults (for example behavior) and another child with similar problems in role play scenarios. Then we exposed both of them and their learned skills to outside groups. For some reason, the kids in our support group here have all learned best when they themselves are being the teachers with a younger child. My son is a huge hit up at the school when he goes for the special education game day where he displays all those skills we had to 1) Explain step by step. Never take any part of a behavior for granted. (Well, they ought to know that because well people DO don't they?) 2) Act out and display 3) Have them act out and role play and then 4) Have them put that one behavior into practice. Everything from using a Kleenex instead of his sleeve to modifying his thoughts some before speaking. Then we had to always remember ourselves that it ISN'T natural behavior for them. It's like us going to a foreign country and having no idea how to speak the language. Also, most Aspies who are adults eventually learn well enough to relate to strangers but the ones I know didn't achieve that until fifteen plus years. Including my opinionated rugrat who usually only speaks up online (less intimidating to talk to someone you can't see). My nephew is severely autistic but we used the same method to teach him to socialize. Also, another thought... most of the kids in our support group actually socialize better with older or younger people than their own peer group. Learning social interaction from a neighbor's example has been a godsend many times. I thank the Lord for some of them. Perhaps he could learn conversational skills with an 'adopted' relative?

MommyTof3 said...

Thanks Peek-
Yes- I totally hear ya abt the school mucking things up-royally-been there too my friend.
Stinger does tend to do alot better with younger or older kids now that you mention it....Im going to ask the group leaders what they think abt that.